Moo, now hiring builders.

Category: Accessible Games

Post 1 by NoahsMommy (guide dog girl) on Monday, 09-Feb-2009 8:09:02

Hi, I'm running a moo, and i'm hiring builders. below is the application you need to fill out.
The current plan for the moo is that it will be a multi time span moo, with some futuristic based things, some mid evil things, space based things, and so on.
Send the completed copy to
Sdfirefly@gmail.com

Hi, and thank you for your interest in my moo.
If your filling out this application, you must also be interested in being a builder on my moo.
Everyone will start out as builders. This does not mean that you will never have other responsibilities within the moo, it simply means you start out as a builder.
Please answer the following questions to the best of your ability.
If we find out that you falsified any information on this application later, your builder-bit and any other rights you have gained will be immediately revoked and you will be banned.

1. What is your real name?
2. What is your age?
3. What experience if any do you have as a builder, programmer, or administrator on other moo's?
4. Do you agree that anything you build, or make becomes property of my moo?
5. Do you agree not to take code from my moo in any way, whether it be copying and pasteing or anything else?
6. What is the best e-mail address to reach you at?
7. Do you agree not to use my moo as a proxy to get around banns you might have from any other game?
8. Do you agree not to take issues that happen on my moo to any other game, and make them in character problems between you and anyone else from my moo who might play that game?
9. Do you agree not to attack the game, the server it runs on, or the network in anyway at all?
10. Do you agree not to harass anyone on my moo? Whether it be verbally, sexually, physically, or emotionally?
11. Do you agree not to make secret areas that only you or your friends know about?
12. Do you agree not to threaten anyone in any out of character way?
13. Do you agree not to abuse the emote command in any way?
14. Do you agree to report any bugs or loopholes you might find?
15. Do you agree not to descriminate against anyone in any way?
16. Please describe a restaurant.
17. Please describe a landing pad.
18. Please describe a clothing store.
19. Please describe an income method.
20. Make any additional comments you think would be useful in our decision making process.

Post 2 by HauntedReverie (doing the bad mango) on Monday, 09-Feb-2009 14:14:42

hello.
I don't know how to code a moo unfortunently, but if you ever need help with descriptions of objects or ideas I'd be interested. It sounds like an interesting idea, though I don't see how you're going to in compass so much into one moo.
I don't know if you've ever played miriani, but they have a system where making rooms is easy. If the coding was pretty easy, I could learn it and would like to help.

Cala

Post 3 by Chris N (I just keep on posting!) on Monday, 09-Feb-2009 16:36:50

I made a generic NPC, squirrels and dogs based off of that, generic NPC catcher, squirrel net and dog catcher based off of that, then released about 30 of each NPC and watched them run around and interact with objects. That was amusing.

Post 4 by NoahsMommy (guide dog girl) on Monday, 09-Feb-2009 16:38:40

mostly all builders need to do is know how to describe, dig, and so on. if you can do that you can be a builder. give the app a try. I am willing to teach people that is no issue.

Post 5 by blindndangerous (the blind and dangerous one) on Monday, 09-Feb-2009 18:45:58

Awww sweet. This is something I'd like to do. I'm a wizard on Big D's mud, and once him and Braille Note Nut helped me out with the dig commands and recycle and describe commands, I started making rooms and objects with them. I really don't know how to write verbs, but I think I'll definitly fill this application out, and we'll see where it goes.

Post 6 by NoahsMommy (guide dog girl) on Monday, 09-Feb-2009 21:52:23

our system is somewhat similar to mirianis, but not exactly. If you can build a house their though you can build on my moo, and like I said I will teach you what you don't know if you like.

Post 7 by Ryan Smith (Veteran Zoner) on Wednesday, 11-Feb-2009 16:47:08

Hi,
I'm very busy this time of year, but perhaps in the summer. I am a wizard on Humanity Moo. Unlike other MUDS (Big D's), they require that you are an experienced coder. (Not to brag, or be a cocky, just showing you what I know) I am not a very good builder, I generally code things. For example, an apartment-like system, weapons, boats, bombing airplane, and an assist system just to name a few things I did. Humanity MOO is similar to Miriani in ways, with a definite space theme.Humanity MOO has had more then it's fair share of people who refuse to cooperate with our policies. I don't argue, I explain what people did, based on policies, and then redlist, toad or ban them depending on the circumstance or standard protocol. As far as starting out as a builder, if you could set a requirement of some kind of "you need to code this" to advance to a programmer or wizard, that would make it easier for people who have coding experience to get proper permissions to code what they need, unless of course your MOO has all the necessary generic objects you expect.

As I can't help out now, or for awhile, I wish you good luck. I don't usually check the ZoneBBS often.

Post 8 by blindndangerous (the blind and dangerous one) on Thursday, 12-Feb-2009 18:20:43

Wait, maybe I'm misunderstanding you, buy are you saying that Big D requires to have experienced coders on his moo? then, how in the world am I a wizard on their? After Kev got banned, he moved my status up. Correct me if I'm wrong here.

Post 9 by Ryan Smith (Veteran Zoner) on Thursday, 12-Feb-2009 21:58:37

Hi,
Sorry if I wasn't clear, Big D let's everyone be a wizard. Humanity Moo is more stricter about that kind of stuff.

Post 10 by blindndangerous (the blind and dangerous one) on Thursday, 12-Feb-2009 23:16:33

I don't think that's right. He trusts the people he lets be them, we have got no player base, except for us. Their are only 3 players, him, braille note nut, and myself.

Post 11 by NoahsMommy (guide dog girl) on Friday, 13-Feb-2009 17:15:42

I'm sorry to have to down another game here, but here is my two sense about humanity moo.
1. Most of the administrators are between the ages of 12, and 18. However they act as if their about 4.
2. Their game has so many bugs, no players, and lacks originality.
3. I was a programmer on humanity for a while, got accused of doing several things i indeed did not do, and was banned. All because of a bunch of kids.
4. Big D, Mike, and all the rest of this group of friends saw fit to spam the holy shit out of my computer by sending me litterally hundreds of messages on msn at once, to the point my computer was choking.
5. This same group of children also saw fit to send DDOS attacks miriani's way. All because they got banned for bann evasion.
6. They have also threatened to take legal action against me because apparently i gave the miriani hosts a list of their administrators, when in fact i did not, and if they would have checked the owner of such a list they might know this.
7. All I got for logging into their game was horrible, rude comments about my personal life, which I feel is none of their business, them putting poorly written verbs on my programmer character to spam comments at me, yelling at me etc.
So, to sum this up.
They wonder why they have no players, why people log in and never finish creation, why nobody likes them. Well, for one maybe they should look at how they even treat their administrators first. Next, maybe they should actually fix some of the millions of bugs, and finally, maybe they should grow up a little before running a game. Running a game is no childs work. It takes time, patience, dedication, and diciplin none of which it seems these kids have.
Thank you for reading my opinions.
Jessica

Post 12 by MikeF (Newborn Zoner) on Friday, 13-Feb-2009 20:37:45

Hi,
My name is Mike, and I am the main administrator and coder on Humanity MOO. I feel it necessary to reply to the previous post.

First off, our MOO has a very good team of developers committed to the game. We try our best to fix bugs as they present themselves as well as doing extensive testing ourselves. We are available to help when needed, whether it be answering questions or assists. However, any program is likely to have bugs, and for those who aren't familiar with coding, they can be caused by anything from a typo, incorrect reference to an object, etc. In short, bugs nearly always appear in some way, and fixing them takes time, since they are not always obvious. Jessica, you'll realize soon enough that your MOO will have bugs, like any other computer program.

Second, the goings-on within the administration of Humanity MOO are meant to be internal. Jessica, as a programmer, acted in a way that caused her to be removed from the staff. Those reasons I will not disclose here. However, we did not participate in DDOS or spam attacks of any kind, and we are not threatening any type of legal action whatsoever. Information such as our ages should have not have been released here, it is insignificant; I, and the other administrators are perfectly capable of running a game as anyone who has played would have seen. I feel that it is extremely immature to drag out internal information in order to slam our game. If a worker in a company released restricted company information to the public, he would be fired. We are not accusing Jessica, we have valid reasons to ban her, and that does not concern anyone except the Humanity MOO admins.

Now that I've gotten through that, I encourage you all to check out the game at humanitymoo.game-host.org port 4000. It is still a work in progress, and I have a lot going on outside of the game at the moment, but anyone is welcome to play.

Thanks,
Mike

Post 13 by chikorita (move over school!) on Friday, 13-Feb-2009 20:42:33

TO add to that, I don't even have her on msn, so how could I have "spammed the holy shit out of her?"

Post 14 by sorressean (Zone BBS Addict) on Friday, 13-Feb-2009 20:51:35

Wow, can I keep this under 8000 chars? I think not, it’s going to end up being multiple posts.
I totally love you, firekiddy. You summed up hm very well.
Let me explain a bit about my experiences.
I offered to help out in trade for a character on godwars.
So, I start helping out, and get some coding done. Mainly I had to deal with Tristan who is running another clone of humanity.
So, I help out for a while, then something random happens and Tristan bans me.
I get my prog and wiz bit back after talking to Mike and write it off.
Now, I start helping out again and omg, something else happens.
Guess what? I totally lost prog bit.
At that point, I gave up and said fuck it. So Mike here, insists on me giving his character back on godwars after I’d held up my end of the deal.
Basically it resulted in him spamming the living hell out of another mud to try to get people to hack me, threatening to hack me himself, yada yada.

I would also like to agree with the policies.
Humanity moo is nothing more than a clone of hell and miriani, both of which the main admin got banned from.
Not only is it a clone, but it’s a bad one at that.
Making a mud with people eating their own shit is kinda odd. Besides the fucked up coding skills that these people love to show off, their grasp on reality is limited.
The kids um, coders(?) can’t code without opening up bugs, and it just turns in to one big ass drama fest.

This said, I’d like to offer my assistance, if possible. I am working on another mud, which is creaping along, but I would be more than happy to help out with code and etc if it’s needed.

Now, I do need to point out the flas in Mike’s message.
Bugs can be caused by typos, but those are generally small and can be caught rather easily.
What can not be caught, is when the coder doesn’t know anything about what they’re trying to do, and ends up copying and pasting code from other muds to try to cobble something together that fits a remote picture of what they want, then using the “hack and slash” technique to try to get their code to do what it should.
Second, I still have logs somewhere, I think of mike threatening to hack me, so I’m not going to be surprised if this really did happen. And your age is more than relevant here, as you act like your about 10 years younger. Your company analogy fails because well, your mud is nowhere near professional. I’m proud of you for trying that out, though.


Peace,

Post 15 by sorressean (Zone BBS Addict) on Friday, 13-Feb-2009 20:54:25

I might add, you may want to revise your rules. Just write out a nice professional looking agreement and use that.
And... You may want to try some origenality with the app. Cloning miriani's build app isn't the best way to go, IMO.
We've already got one miriani, and a bunch of tards (ahem, humanity, cosmos, anyone listening), who want to be just like miriani.
As it's already a clone, can we stop the process?
Some new stuff, maybe a new twist would be great, but...

Post 16 by blindndangerous (the blind and dangerous one) on Friday, 13-Feb-2009 21:09:26

I'd like to ask one question. Was Mike F the mike you were talking about, or was it me? because 1. My character was deleted on humanity moo for not logging in, and 2. I don't have your MSN address.

Post 17 by SEPTEMBER-TWILIGHT (CAN I TALK? PLEASE?) on Friday, 13-Feb-2009 21:14:05

moo? like a cow? lmaos

Post 18 by sorressean (Zone BBS Addict) on Friday, 13-Feb-2009 21:31:38

careful minh, mike is going to turn in to the next twkav and start explaining how they work.

I should make my own language and make it baaaaah for my sheep!

Post 19 by Coldshadow (supreme commander of the shadow fleet) on Saturday, 14-Feb-2009 3:11:40

hahah thats funny dude
anyway, humanity was actually stolen, did you guys know that much?
MikeF was not the original owner, I know the original owner
he and the rest of his little group just took it over and banned gthe original person, so yeah

Post 20 by sorressean (Zone BBS Addict) on Saturday, 14-Feb-2009 10:52:28

I was refering to mike f, music master.
And I doubt it was stolen, he started it out I believe, though most of the code is "borrowed."
I have logs of code where he stole it from q's moo and didn't bother removing the comments. :)

Post 21 by blindndangerous (the blind and dangerous one) on Saturday, 14-Feb-2009 11:53:16

Um...wow. If your going to do that, at least remove things that will give it away.

Post 22 by Coldshadow (supreme commander of the shadow fleet) on Saturday, 14-Feb-2009 21:23:42

no, it was originally this dude who called himself humanity, it was his moo at first

Post 23 by chikorita (move over school!) on Sunday, 15-Feb-2009 1:25:25

Um. It's named after him, but it's not his moo. anyone whose seen any announcements or posts to moo lists would know that. Mike is #2, so unless he stole humanity's password and renamed and all that...

Post 24 by blindndangerous (the blind and dangerous one) on Sunday, 15-Feb-2009 1:35:42

Yay for getting off track.

Post 25 by sorressean (Zone BBS Addict) on Sunday, 15-Feb-2009 10:16:18

It's not hard to steal a password on moo, specially if you have wiz.
It wasn't stolen from humanity, and that's not his real name. he's just another follower of mike's.

Post 26 by Coldshadow (supreme commander of the shadow fleet) on Sunday, 15-Feb-2009 11:14:10

hmm, ok, on topic this time, how long do we have to wait to get a reply on the application?

Post 27 by NoahsMommy (guide dog girl) on Sunday, 15-Feb-2009 12:20:25

I'm trying to get responses back as soon as possible. Have patience though.

Post 28 by blindndangerous (the blind and dangerous one) on Monday, 16-Feb-2009 22:17:35

I just got mine today.

Post 29 by NoahsMommy (guide dog girl) on Monday, 09-Mar-2009 11:17:15

Hi folks. We've gotten our builders now, that doesn't mean we won't except anymore, so if you still want to be a builder I encourage you to fill out the application. Also, now we are accepting programmers, not wizards, but programmers. This means that you will be able to program your own objects, and things for the game. To become a programmer, simply fill out the builder application, and in the comments section, state that you'd like to be considered for a programmers bit. After this has happened, and you send in your application, I will email you letting you know of your acceptance or rejection. If you are accepted, you will be invited onto the moo, for an interview with me and at least one other wizard. If at this time we still feel that you are suited for the position, you will become a programmer. Hope to see many applications. Jessica

Post 30 by blindndangerous (the blind and dangerous one) on Tuesday, 10-Mar-2009 1:05:12

How is the moo going jess, since you banned me for no reason whatsoever besides the fact that I hang out on derek's mud, but whatever.

Post 31 by NoahsMommy (guide dog girl) on Tuesday, 10-Mar-2009 7:02:20

The moo is going well, all parties that were administrators from that moo were banned, because they were flooding the moo, and that is unexceptable.

Post 32 by Kevin Roberts (Generic Zoner) on Thursday, 12-Mar-2009 17:29:58

Hello all Jessica I would like to help I am learning the codeing VA reading programeing manuals and learning how to make objects I would love to help can I make a char first though before I fill out the application so I can get a feel for what the moo is before I help? Thanks and oh what is the moo called anyway? Thanks Kevin PM me if you like as well or add me to skype if you like as well they are in my profile 8375 is My number.

Post 33 by NoahsMommy (guide dog girl) on Friday, 13-Mar-2009 2:53:58

Right now the moo has no name, go ahead and fill out the app as best as you can, and then I'll send you the connect information.